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October 30, 2002

Public Forum: President's Report

Budget: Reserves still not on the level they should be. Ended up where budget was supposed to. Contributions to reserves not being what hoped in an ideal circumstance, but that's because of budgeting for ccTLD contributions. Board will consider special appropriation for cost of recuriting replacement for Stuart Lynn; retiring "March or earlier should that work out". Staffing: 20 staff on board, budget approval 21 end last year, approval for 27 this year. Personal announcements: Andy McLaughlin now half time, given up post of vice president; half-time consulting role. Vitzthum (ccTLD liaison) will be leaving ICANN in the end of this year for personal reasons. Anne-Rachel Inné will join staff playing role in ccTLD liaison work and policy analysis. Recently played consulting role on outreach issues in Africa. Steve Conte has joined ICANN technical staff. Denise Michel joined consulting staff. Administrative staff turnover. Other postions open: Registry liaison, webmaster. More recruiting to come.

Audit report is late; auditor fell of a horse doing field work. Unaudited figures given earlier will track precisely the audited figures; no reason to assume otherwise.

DoC has signed MoU extension. Improvement over earlier MoUs. Earlier MoUs had broad areas ICANN needs to accomplish, without time frame. New MoU has specific tasks to be accomplished in the shorter term. Accomplishing these tasks is a challenge for ICANN. Also a challenge to the community, in terms of what community wants to see happen (or doesn't want to see happen).

ccTLD relationships: Several agreements will be signed in the next few weeks. Complete some by this meeting; consolidation over the next few weeks. Difficulties in relationship between IANA function and some ccTLDs; differences of view over interpretation of policy. Legitimate differences of view. AXFR requirements for name server changes. Trying to channel those differences into more constructive framework. Security and stability committee has undertaken the task to think about how to improve DNS stability. Staff tied some things together which should better be considered separately. More constructive direction now. ... Hard to find one policy which fits all kinds of name server changes. Hopes that CCNSO will be a way to work together to do hard thinking on what is the rigvht framework for this. IANA is a function and not a policy part of ICANN. Responds to what it believes the policy framework is. Work out that framework.

Dot-org: Awareded to ISOC/PIR. Eleven very serious and very thoughtful proposals. Proposed agreement with PIR has been posted. Board members can raise policy questions until Friday. If no objections, Stuart signs next week. If objections, there'll be a special meeting to discuss this. Constructive collaboration between Verisign and Afilias. Transition going to happen on December 31.

New gTLDs: Presented NTEPPTF report in August. Proposed three-part action plan which will be presented later today. No action on it at this meeting; action plan has not been posted. Post next week; possible board action in Amsterdam December 14/15. Location: Sheraton at Schiphol airport in Amsterdam.

2003 spring meeting will be in Rio de Janeiro; sandwiched between carnival and grand prix. First meeting in North America outside Marina del Rey will be in Montreal, June 23rd through 26th. 2003 fall meeting will be in Africa, probably November. Details still to be decided.

Closing comments: Reform will be main topic of the day. Put together document last february which got universal acclaim and agreement (laughter in the audience). Community, board and staff have worked hard in putting forward reform proposals. Appreciate effort. Three primary problems: Funding, process, stakeholder relationships. Addressing the first two of those, but have much work to do in terms of relationships with certain communities. Lot of work to be done. Constructive thinking is going on. Looking forward to some dialogues. Third area clearly needs to be done. Transition planning still to be done.

Public Forum: GAC report.

Paul Twomey presents communiqué from GAC meeting held here. Representatives from 32 governments etc. Focused on evolution and reform. IPv6, recent WIPO and IETF deliberations, ccTLD management, GAC reform.

Affirming Bucharest resolutions, GAC maintains strong interest in the deliberations of the ERC. GAC discussed the ERC's proposed new bylaws. Recommendations for further amendment. GAC requests that ERC and board take recommendations into account. Walk through proposed bylaw changes. GAC will consider and comment on further bylaw text by ERC on ccNSO. Internet is global resource. Supports worldwide economic and social interaction. GAC notes that issues arising from coordination are entrusted to one entity whose activities should appropriately reflect the global interdependency of the resource. GAC calls on all parties concerned, including ICANN, RIRs and ccTLD fconstituency to cooperate in good faith in order to ensure a relationship conductive to efficiency and mutual confidence. Dialogue with ccTLD constituency. Notes comments that simplification of contractual positions and processes might facilitate improvement in interactions between ICANN and ccTLD constituency. IANA should perform updates in a more timely and efficient manner in order to ensure accuracy. GAC prefers its representative on the nominating committee should be non-voting liaison. Strongly support efforts on IPv6. Presentation was made on WIPO decision on issues addressed by 2nd WIPO internet domain name process. GAC will put this issue onto work program. GAC received presentation from Harald Alvestrand on ICANN and the IETF. Appreciated; further dialogue in the future. Internal organization and work plan: Priority areas for future work. Elections for office bearers beginning on November 1. GAC will have a new team of chair and vice chair in place by Mid-January. EU commission takes over secreatariat. Transition from Australia to new secretariat should be done by November 30. Considering diversitiy of the GAC, members agree to continue with outreach efforts. Ensure that GAC's work reflects interests of all members. Introduce mechanisms through which local internet communities benefit from having their governmental or public administration representatives at GAC. Appreciate briefing on IDN. Would like to recall earlier advice. Exercise great care in introduction of IDNs; consult with all parties affected. GAC continues to monitor and facilitate registration of dot info country names as per board decision of Montevideo meeting. Next face-to-face meeting in Rio de Janeiro.

Suggested bylaw changes: Cerf requests to move this to reform session later. Asks about "interim secretariat" function of EU. Twomey: "Interim" in the sense of being reviewed.

Public Forum: Root Server Advisory Committee

Jun Murai reports. Basic introduction to root servers; locations and global distribution of the servers. Had 13 meetings so far. Mostly meet at IETF meetings. Security and stability issue: Root name servers are a distributed system. Carefully designed robustness. 7 different hardware platforms, 8 different operating systems (Unix variants), from 5 different vendors (?). There are contingency plans for server outages. Kept in professional facilities with strong physical security. Strong social network. Established encrypted network. Number of out-of-band ways to coordinate. Technical guidelines: RFC 2870 for root server operators.

Incident report on DDoS in october. Presents bits per seconds diagram; presentation disturberd by a number of Nimda virus warnings coming up on the presentation screen. Back to presentation: Attack on Monday 21, 2200 UTC. Coordinated distributed DOS attack. No degradation on three servers. Network congestion caused by this attack made several of the servers effectively unreachable. Enough servers remained reachable and continued the service. No reports about user-visible service errors. Health monitoring worked. In 90 minutes some recovered, in 120 minutes all did. Robust and diverse enough to sustain this particular attack. More capacity should be added to the system in order to resist predicted future attacks. Improve communication channels.

DNSsec, IPv6: Skipping some slides. Carefully studied all this. IDN: No impact on root servers expected. Need test period to deploy technology.

Question from Karl about recovery from attack: Recovery due to active measures or because attack stopped happening? Murai: Both. (Other explanations remain extremely unclear.) Cerf follows up: Can we assume that mechanisms used in defending against denial of service attack against any host would ber useful in defending attack. (Norton Antivirus comes up again; Murai: "I don't know how to stop that, but I think I know how to stop the root server attack, I hope.") Primititve way: Identify traffic, remove or filter traffic. Andy MM: Can data be distributed from something else than the A root? Murai: Design new structure of distributing original root zone file to the server. Has been tested in non real-life server basis.

Public Forum: Security and Stability Advisory Committee.

Steve Crocker reports: Quick overview of pieces of committee; generally what they are doing; some recent events. Strengths of SAC group: Operational experience. Not a policy or politically-oriented group. Originally try to do a fairly comprehensive look at security issues along multiple dimensions. Protocol, system design, registration process, identification, countering threats. Try to quantify, where possible, progress measures and measures of goodness and safety and stability and secfurity so can separate out emotional measures if things are good and bad. Have not finished near term schedule. Need shift to mode of activities. Focus on individual recommendations, put them together. Events of past few weeks have taken focus. DDoS attack to name server system substantial and serious, but minimal damage to end users. Structure of root system is good. Operational staff responded quickly and vigorously. Attack subsided by itself. Response by operators diminished effectg of attack well before it subsided. If attack had proceeded at the same level, world would not have seen much of a change. Academic issue as to how long can sustain under that attack. But answer to the question is "indefinitively". But unlikely that future attacks will be the same as this one. Servers suffered under load. Some stopped responding, but none actually broke. Improvements: Strengthen communication among operators and with law enforcement and government and oversight committees which want to be informed immediately. Denial of service attacks are not necessarily specific. In this case, root and TLD servers. There are things to be done on the network: Secure the edge. Reduce number of easily captured hosts. Beyond narrow purview of DNS since this affects the entire network. Should lend a hand here. From committee's point of view, don't want to put out redundant extra report, but will work with others. Lesson to engage in more operational issues. Open dialogue on generic denial of service attacks.

Asked for comment on zone transfer. It didn't take long to come to a conclusion on a number of core things: Authenticate requestor to avoid hijacking of zone. Consistency between parent and child. Desirable: Accuracy of glue records; up-to-date software; redundancy, diversity, disaster recovery preparations.

ccTLDs, IANA, SAC have formed a small, sort term working group to resolve procedures. Doesn't want to make this the entire focus of the committee's activity.

Have been asked about WHOIS. Last verified date should be added; privacy is needed; standardize format. Make WHOIS servers known publicly.

Question from Vint: Assume small number of sources, but with spoofed sources. Track them down? Traffic was generated by a small number of machines with high bandwidth. Need to trace them back. Crocker: Comments on securing the edges. Would be helpful to eliminate or reduce bogus addresses. One layer of defense. Won't stop these kinds of attacks, because if you get thousands of machines, you still have a problem. But takes away a layer of protection from bad guys. Karl Auerbach concerned about getting into a bind where things interdepend too strongly.

Marilyn Cade appreciates comments on WHOIS in the name of the task force, would like conference call. Participant at the microphone: Finds position taken by SAC and Touton in public overly complacent. Metaphore: In 1993 WTC was attacked. This was our 1993. In 2001, after 09/11, there was special meeting. Single point of failure pointed out then: IANA. Need to have way to change name servers urgently when TLD comes under attack in this way. Can't even reach IANA outside business hours. [...]

Public Forum: IDN committee.

Katoh-san, trying to be brief. Members of the committee, time line, Created in March 2001 by board. Permissible code point issue. Try to limit the number of character sets. Current Unicode over inclusive for purpose of domain names. Carefully study symbols, icons etc. which aren't necessary for domain names, but may create confusion. On October 24, IETF came out with standard. Client-side approach. Client translates non-ascii to ascii. Punycode, nameprep, ... Issues remain: Chinese-Japanses-Korean registration and administrative guidelines. More than 68000 characters in Unicode. Just use all of them is a problem: Similar characters, read the same way, mean the same thing, but are expressed at different code points. Potential for much confusion. When implementing IDN, need administration and registration guidelines. More limited character set instead of entire Unicode. Some companies already operade 2nd level IDNs. [...] Discussed about non-ASCII top level domain names. Adopt then? When? Need dialogue and coordination among registries. Actual use is not coming yet. Need user interfaces. Suggestions and recommendations from committee: Not much time before IDN is going to be implemented by businesses. Need awareness and education. IDN committee has limited life. Asks board to consider continuation of committee for undefinite time period.

ASO report.

Barbara Roseman, chair of address council. Progress with LACNIC and AFRINIC. Establish BoD selection processes; publish by Januaery 2003. Ongoing discussion to review RFC 2050 and replace it by something outside the domain of the IETF. Mailing list. AC working closely with RIRs on ICANN reform process discussions.

PSO report

Richard Hill from ITU-T; presentation technology courtesy of W3C. Brief report, see slides for details.

Public Forum: DNSO NC report.

Bruce Tonkin: Walking through resolutions. Resolutions re ERC process. Structure of new GNSO. Want three representatives per constituency; review 12 months after the formation of GNSO council. Second resolution: NC underlines principle of equal stakeholder representation. Third and fourth: updating of name servers at the root level and DNS data quality issues. NC recommends that ccTLD managers and ICANN committee for security and stability with input from IANA staff develop procedures at interface between IANA and ccTLDs. Fourth resolution re Lynn and Cerf letter on security and stability: Look at data quality; also concerns WHOIS data. Chairs of task forces no longer need to be members of NC. Terms of reference and procedure for deletes task force. Discussions around WHOIS and Transfers: How to actually implement conclusions and recommendations from Task Forces? ICANN is about contracts, not laws which can just be imposed. Even after looking at improvement at policy level, need to figure out how to practically implement these. Complex with multiple registries and hundreds of registrars. Difference between policy decision and detailed implementation information? Need to review output of task force from that point of view; permit for registry and registrar flexibility in implementing. Transfers: What's the most effective way to assure that registrant has actually authorized transfer? WHOIS: Accuracy is a concern, but can only be accomplished when privacy is properly addressed. WHOIS is very complex. Process will be to prioritize. Like to report that ccTLD constituency has ended involvement in the DNSO as of yesterdaqy. Would like to thank for the contribution of the ccTLDs to DNSO. Cerf: Thoughtful, timely.

Additional budget schedule comment.

Lynn: Budget schedule for 2003/2004 is delayed; need to integrate with reform and how to integrate. Schedule will be proposed and posted shortly. Preliminary posting of 20003/2004 budget in february time frame. Future of budget advisory committee should be factored into reform planning. Invitge people from other than the funding constituencies to participate in budgeting process. Process will start at December meeting. Break till 10:45.

LACNIC contracts

Right now, Stuart Lynn and Raoul Echeberria are signing the LACNIC agreement. Congratulations to LACNIC.

GAC wishlist for ICANN reform

Paul Twomey is now presenting the GAC's wishes as far as the new bylaws are concern. GAC wants one month instead of 14 days for policy review. GAC should take care of its own review. Non-voting liaisons shall be entitled to use possibly confidential material in the constituency they are representing. The GAC board liaison can't be removed by the board. GAC prefers Advisory Committees to be called Advisory Bodies in the bylaws. GAC membership should be open to determination by the GAC, but not to determination by the board. GAC can adopt its own charter. GAC wants timely information on anything from ICANN, SOs, or advisory bodies seek public comment. GAC may put issues to the board directly; either comment or advice; recommend action, policy development. ICANN has to inform GAC on how to take into account GAC advice. If ICANN can't follow GAC advice, it must give reasons, try to work out things, and may ultimately override. General public policy rhetorics. Cerf concerned about this rethorics, since it may pose potential for massive mission creep. Karl Auerbach concerned about the end of ICANN as a private body. Twomey: No intention to take away final decision-making power of the board. If you don't follow advice, just put down in writing why. Transparency point. Twomey continues with specific wording in XI-A; it's not clear at the moment what the actual changes to that text are, since there is no redline.

ccTLD comment

Peter Dengate Thrush speaking up at the public forum, presenting ccTLD comments: 144 representatives of 65 ccTLDs met in Shanghai. Completion of withdrawal from the DNSO; took effect with the close of the NC meeting yesterday. 2. Reconfirm the detailed response to the ERC blueprint which had been produced and delivered in Bucharest in June 2002. Noted with dismay that the ERC has not yet taken into account what was produced. First work product of assistance group is a useful tool. In view of continuing failures by ICANN in conducting its stewardship of the IANA function, particularly in relation to ccTLD database updates, managers agreed to set up a working group to develop a plan to set up an independent system to manage the relevant root zone entries. Will be worked out in parallel with the setup of an acceptable ccNSO and used if that work is unsuccessful. No ccTLD meeting in Amsterdam. Wholeharted support of the blueprint. Hope that ICANN will be the trusted partner expected from the white paper, but better to have an alternative ready.

More from the ccTLDs

Peter Dengate Thrush at the microphone again, warning the board: If there is no agreement on an SO, ccTLDs may prefer to "attend ITU meetings instead of ICANN meetings". He also warns that the ccTLDs may be leaving ICANN faster than they left DNSO. .ca, .be, .se representatives at the microphone. .ca: Leaving ICANN is plan B. Not complete consensus behind every point of the communiqué. Also, Elisabeth Porteneuve has posted two communiqués to the Names Council: ccTLD constituency; ccNSO assistance group.

GAC communique.

The GAC finally moves at "Internet speed": Their communiqué is available.

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